Curse

pukiman · Apr 27, 2006, 11:14 AM // 11:14

I really liked my MM and created the necro just for the purpose. Now, when the MM nerfed (10 minions? What the hell? Am I suppose to kill all the enemies by myself? Minions don't last for long and now there's not enough bodies to summon more, ffs.) I don't know what to do with my necro.
I was thinking about creating an SS build for the UW run with 55 monk, but I don't know. Playing on American server and after the IWAY nerf, we practically don't have the gods on our side at all.
Any one got any suggestions before I delete the necro?

Cirian · Apr 27, 2006, 11:58 AM // 11:58

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No, I can't be bothered to write a serious reply to this

(learn to play? we're still insane...

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edit: 1 tip - say "hello!" to the elite golem and instant recharge verata...

LordMahal · Apr 27, 2006, 12:02 PM // 12:02

You cant be serious... Just cause of the MM "nerf" you quit? Well, you might as well delete all your chars, and quit guildwars all together then... cause sooner or later they will nerf every single stinking skill and build there is. Quit now, and save yourself the trouble, or learn how to deal with it.

pukiman · Apr 27, 2006, 03:01 PM // 15:01

Well, thanks I guess.

Djvandal · Apr 27, 2006, 03:28 PM // 15:28

lol first i thought this was a joke guess not

shadedcrusade · Apr 27, 2006, 03:44 PM // 15:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordMahal

You cant be serious... Just cause of the MM "nerf" you quit? Well, you might as well delete all your chars, and quit guildwars all together then... cause sooner or later they will nerf every single stinking skill and build there is. Quit now, and save yourself the trouble, or learn how to deal with it.

/agreed. I played CoH before this, and now GW, and all good things eventually come to a nerf. It's just how it is. I have yet to test, but with the improved BOTM and now elite golem and vamps coming, MMing will probably still be viable.

Vamps heal for the sac damage you take from BOTM. Sounds good to me. VS sounds rather useless since its only up 1/6 of the time so learn to love BOTM.

SC

Xpl0iter · Apr 27, 2006, 05:29 PM // 17:29

Have you guys imagined 20 vampirirc horrors hitting u and stealing ur health away ? think about it. Secondly, the nerf took place because of ritualist.
Too many undead servants hurts. MM was the only class that could tank and pack a punch with damage. Now, it seems more balanced with the skills. I have ran MM build and it is quite balanced with the number of minnions i can raise, but the kind i have. Fleshy golem still does the job, but i guess glyph of renewal is more attractive at this point.
Specially in Alliance battles, MMs were the winning factor for most of the battles. I remember my self being locked with the guard just cause an MM guard it with 30 minnions very effectively. I could destroy him, but costed me my life at every time, and most of the time, i couldn't even make it through the minnions. 34ish damage by 1 minnion timed by the number of minnions, an average of 20? do the math guys.
This game has brought back a worst class on its feet which was nerfed for quite a long time. Think about a balance game.
Regardz
A necro & An Elementalist.

unclepunchy · Apr 27, 2006, 05:34 PM // 17:34

Verata's--->but instant recharge for up to 3 minions...

2 vamps+a golem

hmmm

holden · Apr 27, 2006, 07:07 PM // 19:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by pukiman

I really liked my MM and created the necro just for the purpose.

i love this forum

CKaz · Apr 27, 2006, 07:15 PM // 19:15

Ok I thought it might have been a little extreme but PvE is easy and MM will still rock. Already ideas are out there - GoR is a great one. Yes that means no Flesh Golem or OoB, but that's what sacrifice is about.

I don't think they should have ubergimped verata sac to that degree. But yeah there are options to speed up recharge, echo spells, etc etc...

And 10 limit cuts uber spam but hey maybe more than 1 MM might be useful at times, people might actually use wells, and even figure out other things to do with the bodies or the more quickly cycling 'undead servants'.

Fargin Scotchsman · Apr 27, 2006, 08:21 PM // 20:21

still,, mm wuz oober build, now that its practically gone, ss seems only other route to go fo necro, save well builds. anet has made me very very angry, very very angry indead........

Evilsod · Apr 27, 2006, 08:31 PM // 20:31

Necros are gonna take the back seat like eles face it. Eles are absolutely useless since everything flees and you do jack shit to PvE monsters. Now Necros only have 1 decent damage output build, sooner or later they'll make SS activate AoE so there goes the last resort.

Fargin Scotchsman · Apr 28, 2006, 12:38 AM // 00:38

/agreed, ss prolly will get boot next. im mean, look at the boot they gave the putrid spam, that skill alone wud help me clear mobs in seconds. that died, so then ppl went to oober amts of minions. now thats gone, and as said above, necros r gunna fall out of existence like eles and rangers......... this has been a sad day fo gw indeed..............

kaldak · Apr 28, 2006, 01:19 AM // 01:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evilsod

Necros are gonna take the back seat like eles face it. Eles are absolutely useless since everything flees and you do jack shit to PvE monsters. Now Necros only have 1 decent damage output build, sooner or later they'll make SS activate AoE so there goes the last resort.

<sarcasm> oh, absolutely. because of course you couldnt possibly come up with an ele build that avoids using duration AoE spells. and there's no such thing as blood spiking or degen builds for the necro... </sarcasm>

I miss my MM too, but really guys... this nerf makes death magic much less effective, but necros do have alot of other options.

Haggard · Apr 28, 2006, 01:46 AM // 01:46

I went blood on my nec all day for the Head-start, something I've been dabbling in before I even knew this nerf was coming, and it served me pretty well.
Lotsa new skills and therefore possible builds have come, so don't complain that an old favourite has been half destroyed.